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		<title>Comment on Sunday, and a Terrible Premonition by sassman</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sunday-and-a-terrible-premonition/#comment-60</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 09:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I said it wasn&#039;t an anti-war song. In fact, I meant to imply that &quot;Sunday, Bloody Sunday&quot; was about stopping the violence, including both war and terrorism.  It&#039;s just that stopping government-sponsored violence often requires a certain amount of rebellion--such as the type of passive rebellion advocated by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

And you&#039;re right about the cannon-fodder in World War I.  More people died needlessly in six years than had ever died in war before PERIOD, and the fact became true again in the second world war.  But then, Bono&#039;s Irish--and the Irish have been facing a state of apathy and hate for longer than any other single race except for the Jews.  I think you can understand if an Irish man is especially upset over the fate of the Irish soldiers.  In fact, the record shows that Irish troops were given front-line duty in preference to English ones.  But I digress....

Of all types of violence, it has always been religious conflict that has been the most bitter.  Who can say why the Brits REALLY went to Ulster in the first place...there are two sides to nearly every story.  It ought to be enough just to lay down the weapons of war, and to try to live in peace.

In the end, this is the message of &quot;Sunday, Bloody Sunday.&quot;  Violence begets sorrow, death, continued violence and loss.  If, instead, there could be peace and brotherhood, everyone will gain.  There will be happiness, community, and love.  Just...stop fighting.  Could there be any message more simple?  Bono didn&#039;t think so.  Neither do I.

Peace.

SASS has Spoken.

--the SASS Man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I said it wasn&#8217;t an anti-war song. In fact, I meant to imply that &#8220;Sunday, Bloody Sunday&#8221; was about stopping the violence, including both war and terrorism.  It&#8217;s just that stopping government-sponsored violence often requires a certain amount of rebellion&#8211;such as the type of passive rebellion advocated by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;re right about the cannon-fodder in World War I.  More people died needlessly in six years than had ever died in war before PERIOD, and the fact became true again in the second world war.  But then, Bono&#8217;s Irish&#8211;and the Irish have been facing a state of apathy and hate for longer than any other single race except for the Jews.  I think you can understand if an Irish man is especially upset over the fate of the Irish soldiers.  In fact, the record shows that Irish troops were given front-line duty in preference to English ones.  But I digress&#8230;.</p>
<p>Of all types of violence, it has always been religious conflict that has been the most bitter.  Who can say why the Brits REALLY went to Ulster in the first place&#8230;there are two sides to nearly every story.  It ought to be enough just to lay down the weapons of war, and to try to live in peace.</p>
<p>In the end, this is the message of &#8220;Sunday, Bloody Sunday.&#8221;  Violence begets sorrow, death, continued violence and loss.  If, instead, there could be peace and brotherhood, everyone will gain.  There will be happiness, community, and love.  Just&#8230;stop fighting.  Could there be any message more simple?  Bono didn&#8217;t think so.  Neither do I.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>SASS has Spoken.</p>
<p>&#8211;the SASS Man</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moral Objectivism &#8211; A Realistic Nightmare by Andy</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/13/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 03:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting read.  thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday, and a Terrible Premonition by U2 Fan</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sunday-and-a-terrible-premonition/#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>U2 Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 04:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Bono himself said, the song was never a rebel song. Indeed, I&#039;ve ALWAYS recognised it as being an anti-war song. A call for the Irish troubles to end. It didn&#039;t draw a parallel between the Irish revolutionaries and Jesus. Reread the lyrics. See the part &quot;the battle&#039;s just begun, to claim the victory Jesus won&quot;. That refers to the Catholic and Protestant militarists trying to claim that Jesus is on their side - while in reality Jesus would have been opposed to the violence. In fact look at how the world has changed in just 2 decades. Then there were 2 Christian groups fighting over whose way was right. Now we have Moslem extremists attacking us. How petty those old minor differences seem  now. Fortunately peace has now lasted long enough in Ulster that both sides now realise they are far better off living alongside each other in peace, rather than trying to kill each other. Hopefully peaceful times will now continue and prosperity will return.

BTW: The Irish weren&#039;t the only ones used as cannon fodder during World War One - all sides wasted their working classes in that meatgrinding waste of a war - English, Irish, French, German, Italian, Russian, etc, were all sacrificed in that moronic war. It seems to have been the Americans, arriving in the closing months, that had the sense to crawl along the ground, rather than slowly walking across it, in the face of machine guns. I guess they learned something from their own Civil War experience, with the trenches, barbed wire, gatling guns, and heavy cannon. Perhaps the US could have used its own U2 back in 1865?

One final thing - the British Army was actually sent to Ulster in the late 1960s not to oppress, but rather to PROTECT the catholics. It was the IRA that started fighting and forced the army to fight back and restore the peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Bono himself said, the song was never a rebel song. Indeed, I&#8217;ve ALWAYS recognised it as being an anti-war song. A call for the Irish troubles to end. It didn&#8217;t draw a parallel between the Irish revolutionaries and Jesus. Reread the lyrics. See the part &#8220;the battle&#8217;s just begun, to claim the victory Jesus won&#8221;. That refers to the Catholic and Protestant militarists trying to claim that Jesus is on their side &#8211; while in reality Jesus would have been opposed to the violence. In fact look at how the world has changed in just 2 decades. Then there were 2 Christian groups fighting over whose way was right. Now we have Moslem extremists attacking us. How petty those old minor differences seem  now. Fortunately peace has now lasted long enough in Ulster that both sides now realise they are far better off living alongside each other in peace, rather than trying to kill each other. Hopefully peaceful times will now continue and prosperity will return.</p>
<p>BTW: The Irish weren&#8217;t the only ones used as cannon fodder during World War One &#8211; all sides wasted their working classes in that meatgrinding waste of a war &#8211; English, Irish, French, German, Italian, Russian, etc, were all sacrificed in that moronic war. It seems to have been the Americans, arriving in the closing months, that had the sense to crawl along the ground, rather than slowly walking across it, in the face of machine guns. I guess they learned something from their own Civil War experience, with the trenches, barbed wire, gatling guns, and heavy cannon. Perhaps the US could have used its own U2 back in 1865?</p>
<p>One final thing &#8211; the British Army was actually sent to Ulster in the late 1960s not to oppress, but rather to PROTECT the catholics. It was the IRA that started fighting and forced the army to fight back and restore the peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Great Galactic &#8220;Rip&#8221; &#8211; My Take by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoy reading your blog.Btw, this is first time I visit to your blog :)

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		<title>Comment on The Great &#8220;Star Wars vs. Star Trek&#8221; Debate by sassman</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, they certainly did screw the pooch in a lot of ways with those movies.  Of course, Reliant didn&#039;t exactly screw up.  There WAS a planet floating out there, right where CA-6 was supposed to be...it just happened to be the WRONG planet in Ceti-Alpha Six&#039;s orbit...duh.  Probably sensors on some remote outpost saw the explosion, and the scientists knew there was supposed to be a missing planet, and Kirk neglected to tell anyone that he left a dangerous 20th-century superbeing in that system, and the comedy of errors exploded from there.

Then again, we&#039;re living in an age where good acting is often pre-opted for sophisticated special effects.

But then, it isn&#039;t Gene Roddenbery we have to blame for that...it&#039;s George Lucas.

-- the SASS Man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, they certainly did screw the pooch in a lot of ways with those movies.  Of course, Reliant didn&#8217;t exactly screw up.  There WAS a planet floating out there, right where CA-6 was supposed to be&#8230;it just happened to be the WRONG planet in Ceti-Alpha Six&#8217;s orbit&#8230;duh.  Probably sensors on some remote outpost saw the explosion, and the scientists knew there was supposed to be a missing planet, and Kirk neglected to tell anyone that he left a dangerous 20th-century superbeing in that system, and the comedy of errors exploded from there.</p>
<p>Then again, we&#8217;re living in an age where good acting is often pre-opted for sophisticated special effects.</p>
<p>But then, it isn&#8217;t Gene Roddenbery we have to blame for that&#8230;it&#8217;s George Lucas.</p>
<p>&#8211; the SASS Man</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Great &#8220;Star Wars vs. Star Trek&#8221; Debate by Tulkas</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/12/13/the-great-star-wars-vs-star-trek-debate/#comment-50</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original Star Trek seemed to have quite an edge over Star Wars; the ship was capable of moving about the galaxy pretty quickly, the shields were almost impervious to just about anything (including nuclear weapons and the Doomsday machine), the ship could fight at hundreds of times lightspeed, its weapons moved at thousands of times lightspeed etc. Likewise, the science and action weren&#039;t just for show, as the plot was pretty deep, and not simply based on stagnant mysticism. Even Khan and Kirk respected each other in a very fundamental way, as a show of passing of leadership from hierarchy to populism, as we were shown that the Enterprise crew would sooner die a slow death, one by one, than join even the most charismatic dictator; even Khan understood this, and he owed Kirk a great debt of gratitute, in a very deep message of hope for Earth&#039;s future-- Khan wasn&#039;t portrayed as &quot;evil,&quot; simply obsolete. Meanwhile in contrast, Star Wars was based entirely on mysticism and cyclical history, where as one single dictator was able to bamboozle an entire galaxy-- and millenia of democracy, ended with thunderous applause. And then it ended as quickly as it started, when a family squabble resolved-- and the same family resumed the order of elite rulers.

However, my problems with Star Trek, began with the movies: particularly &quot;Wrath of Khan,&quot; where it seemed that the writers pretty much threw away everything in the depth and canon, in order to try to compete with Star Wars-- as proven when Khan became a raving one-dimensional villain, hoisted Chekov one-handed, just like Vader did with Captain Antilles. Here, it was proven that Star Wars space-flight is far superior to that of Star Trek, since the Falcon was able to come out of hyperspace at the exact point where Alderaan was supposed to be, and spotted the planet missing immediately, and knew it was destroyed-- but meanwhile in Star Trek, the Reliant wasn&#039;t even able to tell that an entire planet was missing from the Ceti star system, and the orbits were shifted along with everything else!
Likewise, shields were so weak that they didn&#039;t work in a nebula, sensors didn&#039;t function, shields were pretty useless overall, etc-- and, insult of insults, irony of ironies, Khan proved one-dimensional LITERALLY, as Kirk ended up beating him, by the brilliant move of going UP, and letting Khan pass him in the fog that was the plot.
And it just went downhill from there: STIII simply reversed everything that STII accomplished, but traded in the Enterprise for a Klingon ship, of all things; then it became the USS GreenPeace saving the whales, finding God with space-hippies, and then finally they had Kirk SURRENDERING TO KLINGONS in order to SAVE A TREATY. 
And then they wonder how they got Picard to be such a wimp?

So basically, you have Star Trek pre-TWOK and post-TWOK: i.e. mankind&#039;s future based on science and moral depth, vs. preachy sensationalism and hooey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original Star Trek seemed to have quite an edge over Star Wars; the ship was capable of moving about the galaxy pretty quickly, the shields were almost impervious to just about anything (including nuclear weapons and the Doomsday machine), the ship could fight at hundreds of times lightspeed, its weapons moved at thousands of times lightspeed etc. Likewise, the science and action weren&#8217;t just for show, as the plot was pretty deep, and not simply based on stagnant mysticism. Even Khan and Kirk respected each other in a very fundamental way, as a show of passing of leadership from hierarchy to populism, as we were shown that the Enterprise crew would sooner die a slow death, one by one, than join even the most charismatic dictator; even Khan understood this, and he owed Kirk a great debt of gratitute, in a very deep message of hope for Earth&#8217;s future&#8211; Khan wasn&#8217;t portrayed as &#8220;evil,&#8221; simply obsolete. Meanwhile in contrast, Star Wars was based entirely on mysticism and cyclical history, where as one single dictator was able to bamboozle an entire galaxy&#8211; and millenia of democracy, ended with thunderous applause. And then it ended as quickly as it started, when a family squabble resolved&#8211; and the same family resumed the order of elite rulers.</p>
<p>However, my problems with Star Trek, began with the movies: particularly &#8220;Wrath of Khan,&#8221; where it seemed that the writers pretty much threw away everything in the depth and canon, in order to try to compete with Star Wars&#8211; as proven when Khan became a raving one-dimensional villain, hoisted Chekov one-handed, just like Vader did with Captain Antilles. Here, it was proven that Star Wars space-flight is far superior to that of Star Trek, since the Falcon was able to come out of hyperspace at the exact point where Alderaan was supposed to be, and spotted the planet missing immediately, and knew it was destroyed&#8211; but meanwhile in Star Trek, the Reliant wasn&#8217;t even able to tell that an entire planet was missing from the Ceti star system, and the orbits were shifted along with everything else!<br />
Likewise, shields were so weak that they didn&#8217;t work in a nebula, sensors didn&#8217;t function, shields were pretty useless overall, etc&#8211; and, insult of insults, irony of ironies, Khan proved one-dimensional LITERALLY, as Kirk ended up beating him, by the brilliant move of going UP, and letting Khan pass him in the fog that was the plot.<br />
And it just went downhill from there: STIII simply reversed everything that STII accomplished, but traded in the Enterprise for a Klingon ship, of all things; then it became the USS GreenPeace saving the whales, finding God with space-hippies, and then finally they had Kirk SURRENDERING TO KLINGONS in order to SAVE A TREATY.<br />
And then they wonder how they got Picard to be such a wimp?</p>
<p>So basically, you have Star Trek pre-TWOK and post-TWOK: i.e. mankind&#8217;s future based on science and moral depth, vs. preachy sensationalism and hooey.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Peter</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/about/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just watching Rattle &amp; Hum on VH-1, and went browsing for the Iniskillin bombing and picked up your site. Great essay - I was totally with you - that is, until the last paragraph. I&#039;m not a warmongering neo-con, nor an apologist for the Bush administration and the Iraq war. But on today, 9/11, having watched once again the terrible events of that ungoldy act of terrorism, I was reminded of how I felt on that day. And I think much of our actions taken since against terrorists in Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Pakistan, and elsewhere, are justified, though a necessary evil.


Again, great essay, and I appreciated all of the linkages between all of the Bloody Sundays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just watching Rattle &amp; Hum on VH-1, and went browsing for the Iniskillin bombing and picked up your site. Great essay &#8211; I was totally with you &#8211; that is, until the last paragraph. I&#8217;m not a warmongering neo-con, nor an apologist for the Bush administration and the Iraq war. But on today, 9/11, having watched once again the terrible events of that ungoldy act of terrorism, I was reminded of how I felt on that day. And I think much of our actions taken since against terrorists in Afghanistan, and Iraq, and Pakistan, and elsewhere, are justified, though a necessary evil.</p>
<p>Again, great essay, and I appreciated all of the linkages between all of the Bloody Sundays.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday, and a Terrible Premonition by sassman</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sunday-and-a-terrible-premonition/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>sassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for that clarification.

-- the SASS Man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for that clarification.</p>
<p>&#8211; the SASS Man</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sunday, and a Terrible Premonition by Sean Kearns</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/sunday-and-a-terrible-premonition/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Kearns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whislt I agree with most of what you are saying... Just a tidbit... Don&#039;t trust Wikipedia quite so much, secondly, the &quot;concert&quot; you are referring to was at &quot;Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe Arizona&quot; (now renamed).. during &quot;The Joshua Tree&quot; Tour which was being filmed for &quot;Rattle and Hum&quot;.
 The Red Rocks show that broke U2&#039;s &quot;Sunday Bloody Sunday&quot; into the American Underground Music Scene was during their &quot;War&quot; Tour 1982-83 for their &quot;Live at Red Rocks&quot; recording. 

Just a little clarification... that&#039;s all :)
Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whislt I agree with most of what you are saying&#8230; Just a tidbit&#8230; Don&#8217;t trust Wikipedia quite so much, secondly, the &#8220;concert&#8221; you are referring to was at &#8220;Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe Arizona&#8221; (now renamed).. during &#8220;The Joshua Tree&#8221; Tour which was being filmed for &#8220;Rattle and Hum&#8221;.<br />
 The Red Rocks show that broke U2&#8217;s &#8220;Sunday Bloody Sunday&#8221; into the American Underground Music Scene was during their &#8220;War&#8221; Tour 1982-83 for their &#8220;Live at Red Rocks&#8221; recording. </p>
<p>Just a little clarification&#8230; that&#8217;s all <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Cheers,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Watch for the Garbage Carriers! by sassman</title>
		<link>http://sassman.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/whatch-for-the-garbage-carriers/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>sassman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, thanks for that link; in fact, I&#039;ll add it to the post...</description>
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